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Saturday, December 8, 2007

This is HINDRAF

For those that aren't as familiar to Hindraf, here's a bit of a heads up.

HINDRAF- Hindu Rights Action Force

Be as it may, this is roughly what Hindraf have come up with so far:
1. A plan to 'sue the UK Government for US$4 trillion (US$1 million for every Malaysian Indian) for bringing Indians as indentured laborers into Malaya, "exploiting them for 150 years" and thereafter failing to protect the minority Indians' rights in the Federal Consitution when independence was granted'. (They could've made it to Bollywood had it not been for the UK government, you know!!)

2. Since Hindraf members 'could not afford the legal fees required, a petition was circulated with 100,000 signatures to be presented to Queen Elizabeth to appoint a Queen's counsel to argue the case'. (In other words, they want the Queen's help in suing her own government)

3. On Sunday, 25th November 2007, they held a rally to submit the petition at the British High Commission in Kuala Lumpur. Armed police and FRU's tried to stop the rally, using water canons and tear gas, Hindraf members replied with Molotov Cocktails. (It's worth noticing that since it was a Sunday, the British Commission was actually closed on that day.)

4. Here's the icing on the cake. May I present, Hindraf memorandum to UK Prime Minister. Oh ya!!

Laugh all you want, but I'm dead serious here! No kidding. These incidents truly happened.

Oh, Hindraf, how you color our world (Malaysia especially)!

7 comments:

MystiKaL said...

There was NO molotov cocktails used at all you misinformed irresponsible blogger. The crowd were simply tossing back the tear gas canisters the police were firing upon a peaceful demonstration.

The Queen and the British government are two separate entities as much as the Thai king is from his country's govt or any other monarchy for that matter.. They represent a moral higher ground when compared to the bureaucracy of a government.

HINDRAF contacted the British commission to remain open so that the people would not have to disrupt their work schedule to have this peaceful petition sent.

Al Jazeera did an objective take on the rally. Maybe you should watch it and understand what was happening before you blog nonsense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlWmafBG1Mo

MystiKaL said...

There was NO molotov cocktails used at all you misinformed irresponsible blogger. The crowd were simply tossing back the tear gas canisters the police were firing upon a peaceful demonstration.

The Queen and the British government are two separate entities as much as the Thai king is from his country's govt or any other monarchy for that matter.. They represent a moral higher ground when compared to the bureaucracy of a government.

HINDRAF contacted the British commission to remain open so that the people would not have to disrupt their work schedule to have this peaceful petition sent.

Al Jazeera did an objective take on the rally. Maybe you should watch it and understand what was happening before you blog nonsense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlWmafBG1Mo

Hubab Al Munzir Asmawi said...

before you call me an irresponsible blogger, let me tell you this. Of all the sources that I read, only those coming from Indian sources called it peaceful.

Regarding the molotov cocktails, I got it from local papers. Here's the link http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/11/26/nation/20071126070518&sec=nation

According to http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Saturday/National/2086421/Article/index_html,
the British Commission's political and press affairs adviser Abdul Rashid Hussein, the commission was indeed closed that day.

MystiKaL said...

The "molotov cocktails" were from an incident in BATU CAVES. I am sure you know the difference between down town Kuala Lumpur and approaching the Brit high Com and something that happened kilometres away in Batu caves? You obviously have trouble understanding even what your sources mean.

The link you gave me about the commission being closed was dated 11th November. BEFORE the rally. Its stated clearly on the webpage as well that the Brit High Com were considering it. So you insinuating the Malaysian police were stupid to blockade a CLOSED Brit High Com on the basis of a article published before the actually rally?

Did you even watch the video link i gave you? The presenter and Al Jazeera are definatly not indian and their stand is that force was used on a i quote "For all intents and purposes a peaceful demonstration"

Therefore in the face of obvious evidence that you use outdated sources of information and that you have serious problems with your geographical interpretation of events.. i still think you are a misinformed irresponsible blogger.

cheers.

MystiKaL said...

I am still wondering where did you get the information that HINDRAF members could not afford the legal fee's required.. I would give you the benefit of the doubt and point me to the source of that information before i rubbish it together with the majority of this blog post you have here.

Hubab Al Munzir Asmawi said...

I actually don't see any reason to continue explaining to you. This conversation surely won't bring us anywhere due to your arrogance and your manner of talking.

however, the use of molotov cocktails was just an indication that the demonstration was not as peaceful as some people intended it to be. And plus, the rioters were also throwing bricks to the police (same link).

And the police weren't just blocking the Brit Com. They were all over KL. They were basically doing the same thing they did in the BERSIH rally a few weeks before.

And heck, regarding Hindraf member's lacking the funds... I actually quoted that word to word from Wikipedia. I'm sure you can find it else where.

cheers.

Anonymous said...

I don't know the details of the demonstration, so I'm not gonna say anything about it. The issue for me is, I don't understand the reason behind all these claims. Why is Hindraf asking the British government to compensate for taking them into Malaya, when I believe it actually led them to a better life? And do you actually think the British will actually pay that much per person? In fact, most of the people who were brought into Malaya in the first place are already deceased. I understand why the British would allow many family members of ex-Gurkha soldiers to live in the UK, but what Hindraf asked for just does not make sense to me. Maybe anyone can enlighten me on the issue?

Susah la kalau camni. Nanti Melayu2 yang tak puas hati akan mintak duit kat descendants of Parameswara sebab datang ke Tanah Melayu when we were all happy in Indonesia. And the Chinese will also want to get the British to pay for bringing them in when they were doing so well back in China.

Let's just be grateful.

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